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Last Pre-Fred! Debate (I promise) live-blog

by @ 19:01 on September 5, 2007. Filed under Politics - National.

With Jim unleashing the doublebarrel live-blog both on bRight & Early and Heading Right, it’s time to unleash my own effort. It will be a half-hearted affair as I’m also live-blogging the Brewer game over at the Bar.

As noted earlier, William Smith will be live-blogging from a bar. I’ll throw in the link to the actual liveblog post once he sets it up.

As a note, I paraphrase heavily, even stuff that’s in quotes. I use quotes to identify what I’m paraphrasing from the candidates. Stuff in italics comes from the moderators, and stuff in parentheses are my own comments. Standard stuff you should be used to by now.

19:13 – Guess I should throw in the specifics. It’s on Fox News Channel and FoxNews.com at 20:00. FoxNews.com will begin streaming in about 16 minutes.

Also, FreeRepublic is on the ball as always.

19:44 – Allahpundit pipes in. There’s at best 2 elephants in that room along with 6 mice.

19:55 – Fred’s “visit my site tomorrow” announcement.

19:59 – Ace checks in – Yep, none of this matters except for the race for #2 on the ticket.

20:00 – Brit’s live. Where’s the fish?

20:01 – Joining Brit, Chris Wallace and Campaign Carl. William’s behind already, only on beer #2.

NH’s GOP chair praising Brownback and his 6 supporters.

Introducing first, Tom Tancredo. Next up, Ron Paul. Batting third, Mike Huckabee. Cleaning up, Rudi Giuliani. Batting 5th, Mitt Romney. In the 6 hole, John McShame. Batting 7th, Sam Brownback. Finally, Duncan Hunter.

Lights and gong is here (noted as “DING DING”). 1 minute for answer, 30 seconds for rebuttal at Brit’s discretion.

20:04 – First question from Brit, Who has made the smart move, you suckers or Fred!. Huckabee takes a whack at Fred. Paul once again proving he’s running in the wrong party. McShame takes another whack; “We’re up past his bedtime”.

20:06 – Romney wants Fred to take more time. Correct Conservative Blogger liveblog link. I didn’t know Rudi was a DA in Manhattan. He pushes experience, and takes the first shot at the DhimmiRATs.

20:08 – To Wallace and illegal immigration. Romney – “Let’s reduce fed funding to sanctuary cities”.

Mary Katharine Ham and Matt Lewis join the live-blogging crew.

To Rudi – Would you continue to protect illegal aliens as President? Rudi – “It was all Clinton’s fault for stopping taking names.” DING-DING!

20:12 – To McShame – Are you and Romney both flip-flopping on immigration? McShame – “No one is for amnesty.” (except you, the DhimmiRATS, and El Jefe Jorge). “Let’s secure the borders first.” (welcome to the party, pal; too bad I don’t believe you.)

20:14 – To Huckabee – Defend calling those who want to toss the illegals out racists. – Deflects by calling to outsource immigration tracking to UPS and FedEx.

20:16 – To Tanc – I double-dog-dare you to call those that agree with you on immigration racists. – “It has nothing to do with racism, it has everything to do with the rule of law.”

20:18 – E-mailed question to Hunter – “What would you do to finish the fence?” Wallace adds that some ranchers don’t want it. – “The fence works. It’s the law. I’ll finish the 800-mile fence in 6 months.”

20:19 – To Campaign Carl at a restaurant and a officer – What good is an unmanned fence? What about those still here? Carl sends it back to Rudi and McShame – How is your plan not amnesty? – Rudi – “Again, it’s all Clinton’s fault. Let’s ID everybody coming in because everybody else is able to do it.” DING DING!

To McShame – “Amnesty is forgiveness” (er, it’s not applying the current rules, jackass).

20:23 – To Romney – “End sanctuary cities using the power of the federal purse.”

20:24 – Wendell brings up the Craig bomb. To Brownback – “He’s taking responsibility by resigning, and he should stick with it…. We shouldn’t stop standing up for family values.” DING DING

20:25 – To Hunter with another e-mail question – Should Craig resign immediately? – “Yes. When Pubbies have ethical problems, they leave. When ‘Rats have them, they often make them chairmen of committees.”

20:28 – Wendell drops the abortion bomb on Romney the flipper – “We need to respect lives of both the mother and the child.” To Huckabee – How do you reconcile your position with Rudi’s – “I’ll let Rudi answer that. Let’s respect life.”

20:29 – To Rudi on gun control, with a couple of Fred! quotes – “I made New York the safest large city in America.” (I note that the gun ban in NYC was in place long before you). And college students carrying? – “That’s up to states.”

20:31 – Wendell to Paul with a misquote on whether airplane passengers should be allowed to carry – “We moved the wrong way on protecting airplanes; it should be on the airlines, not the gubmint” (even a blind squirrel) DING DING

20:32 – Back to Campaign Carl and another gubmint worker – Please don’t ban homosex marriage (shocked, SHOCKED a gubmint employee would take the lieberal position). To Brownback – “Do not redefine marriage from one man and one woman.”

20:35 – BREAK! Eric at RedState’s late and disinterested, and I’m late picking up Michelle; sorry about that.

20:38 – We’re baaaaaack! FoxNews’ token lieberal continues by inviting McShame to attack Rudi on foreign policy. “I knew Rummy’s strategery would fail. The new strategy, which isn’t mine, is working. Oh, and I was a squadron leader.”

20:40 – Chris to Rudi – Defend yourself, and will you finally go to Iraq? – “I hope so by the end of the year. I’m not running on 9/11; I’m running on being mayor of New York City.” DING DING and he continues to run on.

20:42 – Wendell to Romney – You said that we should be all-but-out of Iraq by Feb. Defend. – “I never gave a timeframe, but the surge seems to be working. I don’t envision a permanent role in Iraq.” Token lieberal pushes for a hard date again. Romney dodges.

20:44 – To McCain – “It’s working, not seems to be working, because we have a great general there. The great debate will be in the Senate. I want them home with the right reasons, with honor.”

20:45 – To Paul – What about the bloodbath that would happen if we listened to you and your fellow DhimmiRATs? – “I’m in the wrong party.” (hey dumbfuck toofer, the Islamokazis want us dead not just because of our policy, but because we exist and a couple of them are here, so they consider America part of the Worldwide Caliphate). Hume WHACKS the toofer.

20:47 – Brownback piles on – “Let’s have a political surge.”

20:48 – Wendell points out how the pratfalls of the Brownback 3-state plan (Turkey and Iran taking out the Kurds, the Sunnis rebelling over having no oil) – “We’re going to be there a LONG time.” DING DING!

20:50 – Hume to Huckabee – How do we contininue the surge with the minor American bloodletting going on? – “We broke it, we bought it. I agree with McCain that we cannot leave without honor. Hey Paul, STFU.”

To Paul – “A few neocon fascists went in, not the country.” CATFIGHT! Paul the toofer wants to repeat Vietnam. Hey Paul, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND JOIN THE DHIMMIRATS, YOU COCKSUCKING MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!

20:54 – To Hunter (oh, is he in this debate?) – “We leave with victory.” Token lieberal – No matter how long it takes? – “You don’t understand the determination of the US Marines and US Army.”

20:55 – To Tanc – “I hope the surge works. The war is with radical Islam, and Iraq is a battlefield in that war. This is not a war that will end with our departure. We were not attacked because we had troops in Saudi Arabia. We were attacked because Islam is incompatible with the rest of the world.” DING DING

20:57 – Back to Campaign Carl – There was a skirting of the issues.. SHOCKA – Campaign Carl finds another gubmint employee, a deputy sheriff – Romney, how do we end the war in Iraq? (anybody want to still claim that New Hampshire is anything other than a loser lieberal state?) . Romney answers – “People who put their lives on the line are in a league of their own, and we owe them our respect. It’s a global conflict against jihad going on, and we have to win in Iraq because losing has global consequences. We need a global strategy.” Hume – McCain would disagree with you about “looks” versus “is”. Romney – “We don’t have a report yet.”

21:00 – Token to Romney – Would you wiretap mosques even without a court order? – “No. To continue, we have to focus on preventing by every means necessary, including getting court orders to wiretap mosques. The most important civil liberty is the one to stay alive.” To Tanc – Is torture a line you wouldn’t cross? – “Waterboarding isn’t torture. I’ll do whatever it takes to keep the people of this country safe.”

21:03 – Token to McShame – Did Tanc just overreach, and oh, take your anti-torture shots at Boooooosh – “Waterboarding will be used as an excuse by the other side to torture us.” (Think back to the Hanoi Hilton, Johnny boy. Us not torturing the VC and NVA didn’t stop them from torturing you).

21:05 – Token to Rudy – Defend your call to not close Club Gitmo. – “Where do you want them? New York? DC? Oh, and when has a nation won a war when it set a timetable for withdrawal?”

21:06 – Token to Hunter – Would you hold those “freedom fighters” there indefinitely if we can’t convict them? – “Hell yeah. We’ve caught a bunch of them on the battlefield after we thought they were done.”

21:08 – Token to Brownback – “Would you have your VP do what I and my fellow lieberals think Cheney does?” – “No, but I would lean heavily on him.” DING DING

21:09 – Chris finally takes over. McShame, why won’t you say you won’t raise taxes? – “I don’t need no steenkin’ pledge. I’ll focus on the spending.” Chris points out McShame voted against the tax cuts of 2001-2003, McShame tries to claim that he did so because there was no focus on spending.

21:12 – Chris – Sam, my man, shouldn’t McShame sign? – “Yes.” To Rudi – Your record as a fee-hiker is a long one. Why don’t you try to counter that with this pledge? – “I only want to take one pledge, and let’s not focus on the fee hikes.” (fees that almost everybody has to pay IS a tax, dumbshit).

21:14 – Chris to Romney the flopper – Hey Fee-fee. Defend your fee hikes. (damn, but I like that nickname) – “Don’t focus on the fees. Since it’s been an hour since we whacked the Dhimms, that $250 that Breck Girl wants to let middle-class America save tax-free wouldn’t even buy them a Breck haircut.”

21:17 – Chris to Huckabee – FairTax only helps out the very poor and the very rich. Defend. – “The FairTax at 23%…” (STOP THE TAPE – It’s 30%, not 23%) “…would end the underground economy.” (unbelievable bullshit – it would create a nice black market, especially near the border.)

21:19 – Paul is officially off his meds.

21:20 – Back to Campaign Carl for dessert. Finally, not a public employee, but a PolySci student – Rudi, you’re the weakest family values candidate. – “You don’t need to look at my family life.”

21:22 – BREAK! Another Brit scenario special coming up after the commercials (no wonder why the Dhimms, and especially Hiliary, didn’t want to appear on Fox News).

21:25 – Hume’s scenario – The IAEA says that Iran is on the cusp of getting nukes, Iran responds by kicking out the inspectors. Iran’s attacking Iraq. The UN imposes a limited sanctions regime, but won’t use force. Iran increases its rhetoric about vaporizing Israel. What do you do? Paul – “We sing kumbayah.” (get off the fucking stage, fuckwad)

21:28 – Missed what Hume added for Tanc. – “We continue to waffle, but we don’t tie our soldiers’ hands. To Hunter – “I don’t like these hypotheticals, but we would try to do what Israel did in 1981.” (doesn’t solve the problem permanently, and Iran learned from the “all the eggs in one easy-to-strike basket” lesson.)

21:31 – To Huckabee – “I’m not saying, but it would be what I thought would be best for the American people.” To Brownback – “We’re facing it now. Oh, and Iran’s nutjobs don’t care about surviving an exchange with Israel as long as they destroy it.” To Rudy – “It’s different than the Cold War. Iran is the #1 terror sponsor, and we cannot allow Iran to go nuclear. McCain had it right when he said that as rough as going would be, it would would be rougher to not go.” DING DING “Reagan talked to the Soviet Union with 1,000 missiles pointed at them.”

21:35 – To Romney – “We can’t let a nation that talks about genocide and talking about nuclear weapons have nukes. Let’s build consensus because there are good ‘Rats.” (unfortunately, they’re all dead, Mitt). “Let’s get the world behind us.” DING DING “If we have that, they’ll think twice.” (Really? They want a Shi’ite Caliphate or no world at all).

To McCain – “We can’t let Iran have nukes, and we can’t depend on our ‘allies’. I’d employ the Reagan methods he used to get the hostages back.” (you might want to read your history, McShame.)

21:39 – We’re OUT!

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