Comments on: Shocker – the Barrett Bypass/Doyle Detour to end “early”

By: me me

me me — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:37:51 +0000

By your lack of response, I presume you agree that the deck was poured Saturday. At any rate, you may want to clarify with the JS blogger who mentioned your name in his 4/1/2010 post.

The only way someone could have possibly been impacted negatively by the early opening would be if they spent, say, thousands of dollars and invaluable efforts toward political opportunism (billboards, campaign slogans), all of which banked on the fact that the “detour/bypass” would have lasted longer than 4.5 business days.

Not much of a detour/bypass, but now there are those who will try and complain about the early opening. What would your blog have said if the bridge opened later than they said?

Clearly there is no arguing with those who conveniently ignore, and in your case, even create facts. Perhaps you would care to comment on the fact that under no plausible circumstance would there have been any work on the replaced structures prior to this closure, further negating this as a story with “legs?” Doubt it, just spin away. I will sleep fine tonight, how about those who avert and deter truthiness?

Perhaps you would like to directly accuse the contractor of being complicit in this conspiracy you speak of? I am sure that all of the owners of the construction companies are democrats, and wanted to make Doyle and Barrett look good.

“Always tell the truth. That way, you don’t have to remember what you said.”

By: me me

me me — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:18:26 +0000

In reply to steveegg. Steve, I was wrong about subgrade, I admit, but that doesn't change the fact that no decks were poured until Fri night. That was not the 45N bridge, but one of the connecting ramp bridges. The deck of 45N was poured on Saturday. I enjoy the sensationalism, and your fervor, but you are simply not right. I understand that people are upset that the bridge closed, and upset that the schedule was changed to expedite the pour and paving, but seriously, at least base your conspiracies on actual events. Also, Elvis is dead.

By: steveegg

steveegg — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:25:54 +0000

In reply to me_me. I take it you haven't seen a lot of bridges being built before. The portions below-grade are the approaches. The deck gets poured immediately on top of the girders and whatever material is used as the form, and is poured before the approaches are finished to allow the approach height to be adjusted for any anomalies in bridge deck height. Indeed, the picture in the OnMilwaukee article shows the elevation differential between the approaches (specifically, the northern approach) and the bridge deck.

By: me_me

me_me — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:49:30 +0000

In reply to steveegg. That is subgrade, upon which the deck would be laid on a different day.

By: steveegg

steveegg — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:47:48 +0000

In reply to me_me. Fast-forward to 0:34 of the TMJ4 video from last Friday and take a look at the dark-gray mass over I-94 right next to the old bridge. That's poured concrete on the new span.

By: me_me

me_me — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:37:56 +0000

You are not correct. http://www.onmilwaukee.com/buzz/articles/zoointerchangeupdate032710.html

Do you see a deck? Not sure where you get your inaccurate information from, but you should reconsider before spouting off inaccuracies. Repeat after me: THE DECK WAS NOT ALREADY POURED LAST FRIDAY (3/26/10).