Comments on: George W. Bush – “There is no (conservative) movement.” Me – “We’re back!”

By: dad29

dad29 — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:29:13 +0000

An empty, elitist, droning, sonorous suit

McCain ran?

By: dad29

dad29 — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:28:25 +0000

In reply to Shoebox.

Naaaah.

What WOULD have happened is that Congressional (R) Conservatives would have had a better chance to frustrate GWB’s inanities.

But you’re right–Kerry may well have been elected for the same reason that McCain lost: Conservatives would not have given a rotten rip about the Moron-In-Office (R).

By: Shoebox

Shoebox — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:07:41 +0000

In reply to dad29. Dad, you raise an interesting question; what would have been the conservative response to Bush had 9/11 not occurred? It could be argued that without 9/11, Bush may have been turned on by conservatives, Kerry would have been elected. If Kerry elected, given he wasn't the brightest or most ambitious lefty ever, it's possible that the incrementalism of the left may have moved slow enough to have been accepted by the broader public. We may look back and say for good or bad, Bush actually saved us.

By: Veeshir

Veeshir — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:21:42 +0000

Conservatives were paying attention, the elections in 06 and 08 show that.

As to 2004, the choice was between Bush and J Effing Kerry.
Kerry was, at the time, the worst presidential candidate ever.

Choosing Bush in that scenario was only fitting. Look at how close that election was.

An empty, elitist, droning, sonorous suit almost beat Bush.

By: dad29

dad29 — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:48:53 +0000

In reply to Shoebox.

Umnnnhhh…GWB’s domestic agenda was non-existent following 9/11. “Movement” attention was diverted, shall we say.

In fact, GWB’s Second Inaugural revealed his utter fecklessness (“save the World from All Bad Guys” or some such crapola) and the stupidity of his “houses for All”) program was over-run by Greenspan’s Bubble Wealth-Generator.

So yah, it is the Conservatives’ fault–they weren’t paying attention.

By: dad29

dad29 — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:44:41 +0000

What a seriously-ungrateful fucktard

And oh-so-intellegent, too!!

By: Shoebox

Shoebox — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:56:33 +0000

While I understand and agree with your broader point, you have to admit that there was little if any “movement” through the early Bush term. The movement that did exist was lulled into the notion that he was a passable “conservative” not unlike many of the left who believed that Obama was something more of a centrist…there is snookering that occurs in both parties. You also have to give him credit as for a time he did redefine the REpublican party…we don’t have to like what he did but it’s hard to argue that he didn’t have a major influence on where we are at today…that’s not a good thing.