define('DISALLOW_FILE_EDIT', true); define('DISALLOW_FILE_MODS', true); Comments on: Secluded? SECLUDED?!?!?!? https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/ The repository of one hard-boiled egg from the south suburbs of Milwaukee, Wisconsin (and the occassional guest-blogger). The ramblings within may or may not offend, shock and awe you, but they are what I (or my guest-bloggers) think. Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:41:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: cheeseheadnebraskan https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33194 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:07:04 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33194 Adjective secluded Definition.

1. sheltered or screened from general activity, view, etc.: a secluded cottage.
2. withdrawn from or involving little human or social activity: a secluded life.

Seems to me sheltered is on of the definitions of secluded. Seems like Van Ekkeren needs to resign after some of his resent rulings resulted in other either getting hurt or killed

Van Akkeren will probably let Pask go on this groping sex assault charge too. Maybe Pask has ADHD (which does not really exist except in the pocketbooks of psychiatrists on there drug money) and he could not control himself.

However, I think the law needs to be changed. Does it matter where the sexual assault takes place. There should be laws in place already that take care of this. The current law allows basically this assault to take place as long as it is out in the open in front of other people. So in otherwords now 2 or more sex offenders can get together at the beach at Lake Michigan and lure a kid to the beach where it is wide open and 1 sex offender can do his stuff and the others can watch since others are there.

The law is flawed.

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By: steveegg https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33192 Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:46:39 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33192 They can’t organize a recall, at least not until the end of April, 2008. Van Akkeren was re-elected in the spring 2007 election, and Wisconsin law does not allow for a recall within one year of the beginning of a term.

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By: rag https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33191 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:18:53 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33191 WHY AREN’T SHEBOYGAN VOTERS ORGANIZING A RECALL?????

http://ragdujour.blogspot.com/2007/09/sheboygan-voters-time-for-recall.html

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By: Patrick https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33190 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:34:59 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33190 I just came from the park, the bathrooms were probably not used or considered because there is a “splash pad” on the back side of it, so that is likely where most of the people were.

After seeing this park for myself… There is no way that someone would say that there is no where secluded in that area… this judge is freakin nuts!

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By: K. Carpenter https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33189 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:01:11 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33189 Great work Steve.

Does anyone know why the judge did not consider the bathroom to be secluded?

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By: Stepping Right Up! https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33188 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:58:58 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33188 Another sexual predator could walk…

Not secluded? Judge for yourself, Steve has the video….

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By: Patrick https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33187 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:10:13 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33187 Actually, I’m on my way in a few minutes.

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By: Free Constitution https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33186 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:08:48 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33186 Yeah, relative seclusion from certain distances doesn’t equate to definite seclusion. All I’m saying is that the Judge saw it very differently from the jury and his job is to try the law not the evilness, intent, or probable harm. Do I think the guy should walk the streets, no. But this is the price we pay for poorly worded legislation.

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By: A LOOK AT THE SHEBOYGAN PARK « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33185 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:24:31 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33185 […] 14th, 2007 · No Comments From Steve at No Runny Eggs comes this video of the park in Sheboygan that a jury decided was secluded enough to convict a […]

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By: Peter https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33184 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:23:56 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33184 I agree with steve. The more video evidence we get out there that shows that Judge Van Assclown is an idiot who simply favors child molesters and illegal aliens, the better.

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By: steveegg https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33183 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:14:50 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33183 Patrick, there isn’t anything stopping you for heading up. I have the voice for blogging, and I don’t have any real video editing software.

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By: Peter https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33182 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:01:08 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33182 If the jury was intelligent enough to see it, that’s enough for me. I’d support a rope and a tree for Pask, but even that is too good for him.

Free, your Village called, they want their Idiot back.

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By: steveegg https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33181 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:50:58 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33181 Being out of sight of both the road and the playground is secluded, bub. Re-read the definition Van Akkeren gave the jury and note the “or”. While the northwest beam isn’t remote, it is hidden from view from both the street and the playground, the two major sources of prying eyes.

Who died and made Lawgiver-In-Black-Wannabe Van Akkeren an appellate judge? Overturning jury verdicts is the province of the appellate courts, not trial courts.

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By: Free Constitution https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33179 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:52:46 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33179 The sheltered place is hardly secluded, unless you think hiding behind a support beam is secluded. The jury thought it was, but the judge apparently had good enough reason to disagree. That is his job. The DA was sloppy, and if they thought that was secluded then there’s a disconnect somewhere from the DA to the judge to the legislature. If I were to speculate the judge’s position, the jury tried the man’s evilness, not his possible breaking of a law. Hence he saw the man’s actions as not in violation of the cited law.

Legislatures shouldn’t write subjective wording into law, lest we get pedophiles walking free on technicalities. And I have firefox and it works fine.

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By: Patrick https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33178 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:17:48 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33178 Darn you Steve! You spoiled my weekend drive LOL I was planning to do the same thing tomorrow morning. You provided a needed service though.

By the way, your embed is not viewable on Firefox.

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By: Peter https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33177 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:36:31 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33177 No, the law does not need to be clarified for an idiot like Van Assclown. The jury inspected the crime scene and they were sure smart enough to figure out it met the standards.

It’s not the Legislature’s fault Van Assclown is a moron.

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By: Free Constitution https://norunnyeggs.com/2007/09/secluded-secluded/comment-page-1/#comment-33176 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:23:36 +0000 https://norunnyeggs.com/?p=1307#comment-33176 Thanks for posting that. The law needs to be clarified, obviously.

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